At Wichita city council, does the field tilt?


At the January 12 meeting of the Wichita City Council, several citizens and one council member addressed the “unlevel playing field” and its implications for development in downtown Wichita.

Speaking about the unlevel playing field, council member Janet Miller said: “My own philosophy on that would say that really, incentives are often used to actually level the paying field.” Referring to downtown Wichita, she said that there may be conditions that make development more costly, or there may be other conditions that make development more difficult.

Miller didn’t name specific factors, but often land assembly issues are mentioned as an impediment to developing in downtown Wichita. A parcel may be owned by many parties, the story goes, and it can be difficult and expensive to contact all parties and come to agreement with them.

But land assembly is not an issue with the proposed hotel in WaterWalk. There is no doubt as to land ownership. It’s just one party, and one who is willing to lease it for $1 per year.


14 responses to “At Wichita city council, does the field tilt?”

  1. Cybex

    “She who talks much about what she knows, knows little about what she says”.

  2. Karen

    Bob, you have hit the nail on the head with this article.
    It is obviously not profitable to develop downtown unless subsidies are given and the risk is minimal to a developer.

    The city council continues to put the cart before the horse.

    As far as Waterwalk development goes, we have gotten off track. We need an attraction not a hotel with no amenities. Where are these hotel guests going to eat breakfast?

    It is also my understanding that the hotel developer is a past president of DeBoer’s Candlewood Hotels venture. Do you know if this is true?

    Something is rotten in the state of Denmark and it is time this City Council started vetting to the nth degree anyone who wants the use of taxpayer money for private development!

  3. Pat

    Virtually every citizen in the City of Wichita and Sedgwick County has received some form of public subsidy or public incentive. As the saying goes, “Those who live in glass houses….”

  4. Pat

    Guess I should clarify, that virtually every citizen who in the past 30 years purchased or built a new house has been the beneficiary of a public subsidy.

  5. Stan

    And as my mother use to say, ‘If your friend jumps off the bridge are you going to’?

    What’s your point Pat?

  6. Pat

    The point is what’s un-level and what isn’t? The blog once again doesn’t do a sufficient job about “development” in this community. I would say that in all likelihood that many of those who object to public assistance are calling the pot calling the kettle black. This is a political forum for one of which I’m appreciative; however, any reader should take it for what it’s worth because depth in the writing is sometimes lacking.

  7. Dismal Scientist

    The point is the city government should not be invlolved in economic development at all. With the exception of providing Fire and Police protection, EMS and roads the government should leave every thing else to an unfettered free market!

  8. LonnythePlumber

    It’s time for Bob to come up with these free market business people he keeps talking about. The city needs the income that this hotel will help obtain. $250,000 a year in property tax and having enough rooms to bid on bigger conventions. At no cost to the Wichita taxpayer. Stopping the Bass Pro Shop and stopping this hotel may make some feel powerful but it’s costing taxpayer’s money.

  9. Pat

    DS, yeah, but that’s not reality. The genie is out of the bottle and it isn’t going back in.

  10. Jim

    Lonny, if there is no cost to the city taxpayer, where is the money coming from to subsidize these “developers” who ask for help with these “more expensive and less profitable” hotels? What about the cost of not using the property for what it would be used for in an unfettered free market? I have to say, the city certainly wouldn’t “need” more money if it wasn’t already spending too much of ours.
    Pat, could you clarify further? Where was my subsidy from the city or county when I bought my house.

  11. Mike


    I’m having a REALLY hard time understanding why any Wichita local would even consider blowing more money downtown. You go downtown to Century II, and then you drive back home. If putting a hotel downtown was such a wonderful idea, taxpayers wouldn’t have to pay someone to put the hotel there. If putting a business downtown was such a wonderful idea, taxpayers wouldn’t have to bribe them to put a business in. Of course, since we’ve already bribed the first business, the rest are smart enough to wait for their “just” share of Taxpayer dollars.

    Think about it, Century II has been there for 20 years plus, and there’s a whole 2 restaurants within (Wichitan) walking distance (less than 100 yards). Same observation w.r.t. to the Coliseum. Obviously, having somewhere to shop and eat within walking distance to an entertainment venue isn’t important to Wichitans.

    We need to elect council members who won’t toss tax $ down the downtown hole anymore. We’ve wasted enough money down there as it is. Eventually, the buildings will gone and the land inexpensive enough to use again. I agree with the Dismal Scientist, we need the city to do it’s job, fire, police and streets. Fire the Economic director and his staff, and get back to basics.

  12. Cybex

    Lonnie, you indicated that we need more hotel rooms in downtown to attract additional conventions, but Mayor Brewer ran out of town the second largest convention besides the Olympics, the Bowling Congress.

  13. Pat

    Cybex, your comment is totally untrue with respect the Bowling Congress.

  14. LonnythePlumber

    Jim. The bank will only provide up to a certain percentage of the total funding necessary. The city will allow some of the future guest taxes received from the hotel to be used as a portion of the funding. I think it is 7 or 11%. Bob would have the exact figures.
    Cybex. It was the law department trying to get a better deal that irritated the Bowling Congress. Brewer made changes to identify who would be responsible in the future. And he and others made a special trip to try to recover it.

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