Goody Clancy market findings presented to Wichita audience


Goody Clancy market findings 2010-01-13 08On January 13, 2010, planning firm Goody Clancy presented some findings to a Wichita audience at the Scottish Rite Temple.

Last Wednesday Boston planning firm Goody Clancy presented some preliminary findings regarding the planning process for the revitalization of downtown Wichita. While the presentation contained some material specific to Wichita, those looking for a preview of how the planning process will deliver its promised benefits were likely to be unsatisfied.

As always when talking about downtown, there was talk about how a thriving downtown is necessary for a healthy Wichita and region. One presenter said “If you have a healthy downtown, you will have a healthy region. If the downtown starts to fail, the region will start to fail.” Believers of this mantra, however, are not able to supply evidence as to the truth of this.

A theme repeated over and over is that downtown development will succeed as downtown becomes more walkable.

David Dixon, the Goody Clancy principal for this project, told how that in the future, Wichitans will be able to “enjoy the kind of social and cultural richness” that is found only at the core. “Have dinner someplace, pass a cool shop, go to a great national music act at the arena, and then go to a bar, and if we’re lucky, stumble home.”

Dixon said that this planning effort is grounded in data and hard analysis. As an example, Dixon promoted Walk Score as a measure of the value we place in downtown. Walk score, according to its website, “calculates the walkability of an address based on the distance from your house to nearby amenities. Walk Score measures how easy it is to live a car-lite lifestyle — not how pretty the area is for walking.”

I’ve found that the walk scores are not credible measures. The score for 525 E. Douglas, the block the Eaton Hotel is in and mentioned by Dixon as a walkable area, scored 91, which means it is a “walker’s paradise.” Examination of the results, however, leads us to have little confidence in this measure.

For example, an important “amenity” — that’s a favorite word of planners — that should be nearby is a grocery store. The details for the walk score indicates a grocery store just 0.19 miles away. It’s “Pepsi Bottling Group,” located on Broadway between Douglas and First Streets. Those familiar with the area know there is no grocery store there, only office buildings. Those familiar will also know that the nearest grocery is several miles away.

For a nearby library, it lists Robert F. Walters Digital Library, which is a specialized geological library costing $1,500 per year to use — over the internet.

For a drug store, it lists Rx Doctor’s Choice, which is a specialty store selling oral chelation treatments. It’s nothing at all like a general-purpose drug store. One of those is nowhere nearby.

Sedgwick County projected employmentSedgwick County projected employment, according to planning firm Goody Clancy. This excerpt starts with 2009.

Some claims and evidence just don’t make sense. A slide titled “The Sedgwick County economy is projected to grow” contained a graph that, while showing a projected increase in employment for the next few years, becomes flat for many years. This slide was used twice in different presentations.

Some of the most specific information about Wichita was contained in the residential and hotel market presentations. Regarding the hotel market — the presentation is available at the WDDC website — the preliminary conclusions are: there is market to support additional hotel rooms downtown, limited service hotel niche is a near term opportunity, cluster hotels in mixed-use, pedestrian-oriented environments, and to maximize leverage, locate hotels near convention center.

The residential market findings are not available online at this time, but the main finding is that downtown Wichita should be able to support 1,000 new residential units over the next five years, about 200 new units per year. The mix, according to the presenter, should be 134 rentals, 48 condominiums, and 18 live-work spaces. Rental prices would range from $400 to $2,100, while purchase prices would range from $150,000 to $400,000.

Some speakers from Goody Clancy revealed a condescending attitude towards those who hold values different from this group of planners. One presenter said “Outside of Manhattan and Chicago, the traditional family household generally looks for a single family detached house with yard, where they think their kids might play, and they never do.”

Regarding office buildings, walkability again was a theme: “We need to offer an urban product. What we do not need is a large office building surrounded by a sea of parking and call that a downtown office building.” But parking and transit linkages are important, the presenter said.

The presenter on retail topics had been in Wichita only once for a period of four days — “not a lot” by his own admission. His presentation was mostly generic and could have been presented at any city.

In his closing remarks, Dixon noted that there was no disagreement among the presenters and panelists, except in one case over parking, and that really wasn’t a disagreement after all. He also said that the presentation tonight was not just an infomercial for downtown, but a presentation of data about our markets.

In the short time devoted to questions from the audience — about ten minutes from a two hour meeting — several questioners wasted much time delivering their own personal stories instead of asking questions.

One question asked about cooperation between the downtown planning effort and a committee working on homeless issues. The answer by Dixon was noncommittal.

Another question asked about the use of eminent domain and the use of public subsidy. Dixon replied that eminent domain has been used and misused, and is much less available at this time. Regarding public investment — and he stressed the word “investment” — he said this is a market-driven effort, and there will be a role for public investment. The kinds of public investments are still to be determined, he said.

The fact that these investments are still to be determined is unsettling. Downtown revitalization boosters promote ratios of up to fifteen to one of private investment to public investment. This is after a decade of public investment in downtown Wichita has produced private investment approximately equal to public investment. If Goody Clancy has a method of going from one to fifteen, it wasn’t revealed at this meeting.

It’s starting to be revealed that the fifteen to one returns will be realized after “critical mass” is achieved. It appears that public investment will be at the front, with private investment blossoming later — according to plans. As there is no definition of what constitutes critical mass, any criticism can always be deflected by claiming that that mass has not yet been achieved.

Dixon is correct in that the use of eminent domain is more restricted than in the past. But in Kansas, the threat of its use is still available, and may be as effective as its actual use.

After the event I received feedback from two residents of Wichita who are skeptical of downtown planning. One said “I thought the answers to questions they gave were very generic and broad. Answers that could have applied to any city or town anywhere.”

Another made an observation about the composition of the discussion panel members: “Something else I observed was that the panel existed of mostly those that seem to be already on the ‘in’ when it comes to elected officials in the city. Now I recognize that there are two ways of looking at this situation. People can be insiders either because they are active in developing downtown and are the ‘go to’ guys, or they are developing downtown because they are insiders and know where the money is to get the projects done to line their pockets. I really do not care which is the case with the people that are on the panel, but to me I just wish that there was a larger pool of people that the WDDC and Goody Clancy chose from to sit on the panels.”


3 responses to “Goody Clancy market findings presented to Wichita audience”

  1. craig

    Bob I’m sorry, I feel everybody is missing at least part of the problem with Goody Clancy. I asked Dixon at the meeting if there was anything in this plan to bring “NEW OR REAL $) to town. That the whole thing seems kind of parisitic. Their presentation stated that there were plenty of “hipsters & Yupsters” in the City and surrounding smaller towns to fill 1000 apartments. That producing the perfect environment we could lure these young and young at heart to live downtown. Like some local government made “black hole”
    first sucking life out of the local bars , then the restaurants,
    now the 1 & 2 bedroom apartment market, condo market,
    loft market, the business hotel market, and next the office space market. All subsidized with the taxes of the poor fools they are competing with. I can see why we have to jet 50 people to all these different cities to come up with ideas on how to make our down town work. There is no “VISION” in the people making these decisions.
    At the City Council meeting and at the Goody Clancy meeting I suggested instead of a Fairfield Inn subsidized with $4.3 million of the tax payers money. We at least try for something like a Great Wolf Lodge, now that would bring families downtown, and families driving from 3 hours away with “REAL DOLLARS” pumped into our economy everyday. Some of these properties bring in $30-40 million a year in sales, 3 to 5 times what a regular Hotel of similar size would and 10 to 15 times what a Fairfield Inn does. Now that’s “VISION”.

  2. Criag, I don’t think I could agree with subsidizing any hotel with any amount of money, but if we must, I think your ideas have a lot of merit. The convention-booster crowd wants more hotels for convention attendees, so that may explain their lack of enthusiasm for a hotel with a water park or other family attraction.

  3. […] to Goody Clancy, the City’s downtown development consultant, there is a market for downtown development in Wichita. Specifically, Goody Clancy consultants found that downtown Wichita demand for residences is 1,000 […]

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